Fundamentalism

Vänner,

Hur ser ni på företeelsen fundamentalism? Vad beror den på? Vad syftar den till? Varför är fundamentalismen mer utbredd nu än tidigare? Förresten, är den det?

Själv uppfattar jag fundamentalism i alla dess former som ett försök att ta kontroll över Gud. Det som förenar fundamentalister är ju att de tror sig veta i detalj vad Gud vill – de har så att säga funnit Guds ritning. I varje situation kan de granska ritningen och säga vad som är rätt eller fel, vad Gud befaller och vad Gud förbjuder.

Ytterst måste vi väl alla ”skapa” Gud för att kunna tala om Gud. Men att skapa Gud i detalj, som jag menar att fundamentalister gör, är inte det att gå mycket för långt?

Gert Gelotte

Publicerat i Uncategorized | 15 kommentarer

”Internationell gallupundersökning visar att kritiskt lagda känner till bibeln bättre än fundamentalister”

”Internationell gallupundersökning visar att kritiskt lagda  känner till bibeln bättre än fundamentalister”

Detta intressanta faktum beskrivs av John L.Allen i en artikel igår 3 maj i The National Catholic Reporter.

Här en kort sammanfattning på svenska.

Sedan påven Paul VI 1965 tog initiativ till att skapa Biskopssynoden har den universella kyrkans biskopar hittills träffats vid 21 tillfällen.

Inför den i oktober i år kommande biskopssynoden som har temat ”Guds ord” har katolska Bibelsällskapet sponsrat en internationell gallupundersökning angående attityder till bibeln i olika länder som USA , England, Holland, Tyskland, Spanien, Frankrike, Italien, Polen och Ryssland. Gallupundersökningen planerar att även inom kort inkludera Argentina, Syd-Afrika, Filippinerna och Australien.
Den italienska professorn i sociologi Luca Diotallevi har beskrivit undersökningen som ”den hittills mest systematiskt och vetenskapligt jämförande studien av människors förtrogenhet med bibeln.”
Resultatet, som ska ligga till grund för den kommande synoden, presenterades för en vecka sedan i Vatikanen och uppvisade bla följande resultat

– Många människor i USA precis som i övrga undersökningsländer hade för sig att Jesus själv hade författat en del av bibeln och de visste inte om det var Paulus eller Moses som hörde till Gamla Testamentet.
– I sekulariserade länder som Frankrike, USA och Holland rapporterade en stor majoritet människor en positiv attityd till bibeln och uttryckte önskemål att få lära sig mer om den.
– En stor majoritet beskrev också bibeln som svårtillgänglig och uttryckte behov av hjälp för att kunna förstå bibeln och önskemål uttrycktes om undervisning från kyrkornas sida.
– Fundamentalister och bokstavstroende vet inte mer om bibeln än andra. Tvärtom visade undersökningen att kritiskt lagda, i betydelsen de som ser bibeln som Guds ord som först måste tolkas, är de mest bibelkunniga. Med andra ord visar undersökningen att fundamentalister fick sämre resultat när det gäller grundläggande bibelkunskap.
– Det finns till synes inget samband mellan bibelläsning och någon särskild politisk inriktning. Med andra ord går det inte att utröna om man är konservativ eller liberal bara utifrån flitig bibelläsning.
Läs hela artikeln i NCR

http://ncronline3.org/drupal/?q=node/945

// Irène

Publicerat i Uncategorized | Lämna en kommentar

Den nya ateismen

Vänner,

 under rubriken Katolicism och den nya ateismen har professor Richard R Gaillardetz vid universitetet i Toledo skrivit en mycket intressant artikel i de amerikanska jesuiternas tidskrift America.

Gaillardetz fokuserar på tre problem inom dagens katolska tro.

Naiv tro: Ibland kan man få intrycket att katoliker tror på en Gud som mest liknar en välvillig Zeus.

Katolsk anspråk på sanning: Ibland används katolsk dogmatik som trons motsvarighet till kemins periodiska system.

Kyrkligt ledarskap: Många ser kyrkliga ledare som förefaller mer hemma vid ett kungligt hov.

 Tre superkorta smakbitar. Naturligtvis bör artikeln läsas i sin helhet. Klicka på länken nedan så når du den.

http://www.americamagazine.org/content/article.cfm?article_id=10798

 Gert Gelotte

Publicerat i Uncategorized | 6 kommentarer

”De fattigas biskop” vald i Paraguay

 ”De fattigas biskop” Fernando Lugo vann en stor seger i Paraguay med sitt vänster-centerparti. Lugo är befrielseteolog och fd präst pga att Vatikanen ogillade hans kamp för fattiga och indianer. Här en länk och välkomna in på Forumet.

http://sydsvenskan.se/varlden/article317739.ece

Publicerat i Uncategorized | 2 kommentarer

Kardinal Alfonso López Trujillo har avlidit

Kardinal Alfonso López Trujillo har avlidit 19 april 2008.  Som ordförande i 18 år för Vatikanens påvliga Råd för familjefrågor var det kardinal Trujillo som tex var den ytterst ansvarige för katolska kyrkans kondomförbud med dess katastrofala följder i HIV och Aids drabbade områden i främst  tredje världen.

// Irène

Publicerat i Uncategorized | 13 kommentarer

IMWAC’s pressrelease inför påvens besök i USA

International Movement We are Church har lagt ut nedanstående pressrelease 13 april 2008. Den är omfattande, men jag tycker mycket värdefull i sina åsikter, diagnoser och förväntningar. Dvs det finns mycket att ha både lika och avvikande uppfattning om, redan innan Benedikt XVI har sagt något i det nya landet. Var och en är fri att på vårt Forum eller i denna Blogg göra kommentarer, som kan starta samtal. Av redaktionella skäl har jag flyttat ner lite kringdata till pressreleasen till sist i inlägget.

Krister Janzon

Press release April 13, 2008
We are Church:

Acid test for Pope Benedict’s political and pastoral abilities

Prospects of Pope Benedict’s journey to the US and of his speech at the UN.
The International Movement We are Church hopes that Pope Benedict on his upcoming journey
will find the right words and gestures in view of the current challenges concerning global
development, the inter-religious dialogue, ecumenism and the future of the Roman-Catholic
Church.
„His journey to the United States – one of the world’s biggest Roman-Catholic churches – will be
the acid test for the political and for the pastoral abilities of Pope Benedict”, says Raquel
Mallavibarrena, Chair of the International Movement We are Church
, a world-wide reform
movement within the Roman-Catholic Church.
In his speech at the United Nations General Assembly on April 18 the Pope must be very sensitive
to find the right words that will be understood by people from all continents and of all religions.
His address can be thought provoking but he should do better than he did in Auschwitz/Poland
(about Jews, May 2006), in Regensburg/Germany (about Islam, September 2006) and in Brazil
(about indigenous people, May 2007).
When the Pope will talk about human rights and justice at the United Nations he will have to
explain why he started an appeasement policy towards China and why he uninvited the
Dalai Lama
a few months ago. The Pope’s plea for human rights would be much more
convincing if the Roman-Catholic Church itself did not deny equal rights and responsibilities to
women within its own church.
We are Church is very critical about the fact that the Pope – right on his 81st birthday – will meet
President Bush, a religious fundamentalist and initiator of the unjust Iraq war. This is a very
dangerous strategic alliance. When meeting President Bush the Pope should at least repeat the
Vatican’s opposition to the Iraq war and speak of aid to the poor
. Christianity is about
solidarity with the weak and the poor, not with the political and economical elite.
Facing Pressing Questions of the Church
„If he really wants to be a good pastor of his flock he must address the dramatic priest
shortage worldwide and other pressing questions of the Church”, says Anthony Padovano,
spokesperson of We are Church in the United States and of CORPUS (National Association for
an Inclusive Priesthood). By maintaining compulsory celibacy – which cannot be founded on
biblical grounds and is now questioned all over the world – the Pope denies the canonical right of
the faithful to have the Sunday Eucharist guaranteed (can. 213 CIC).
„The Pope has to make clear that the policy of zero tolerance after the paedophile scandals of
recent years will be forceful if his pastoral visit to the US should be a really new start for the
Roman-Catholic Church in North America”, says Aisha S. Taylor, deputy spokesperson of We
are Church in the United States and Executive Director of the Women’s Ordination Conference.
„We need much more transparency and accountability instead of maintaining a policy of secrecy
and silence.”
In the light of ecumenical and inter-religious dialogue We are Church is very concerned about
last year’s renewed Vatican statement that the Protestant churches are „not churches in the real
sense”, about the recently changed prayer for the conversion of Jews on Good Friday, and about
the papal baptism of a Muslim in St. Peter’s during in the Easter vigil.
Growing Disappointment About Pastoral Standstill
„Three years after his election (April 19, 2005), disappointment is growing in the People of
God even among those who originally had hoped Ratzinger would act, as pope, more
courageously than he did in his position as prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith”,
says Vittorio Bellavite, spokesperson of Noi siamo Chiesa (We are Church Italy).
The hope of millions of Christians, based on the Second Vatican Council, that interior reform
steps and ecumenical progress would take place, has not realised up to now.
The extension of the pre-conciliar Tridentine Rite, the censorship of P. Jon Sobrino’s writings and
other liberation theologians as well as the continued old system of Mission are discouraging.
These are only a few of many indications that Pope Ratzinger has set off in the direction of a
counter-reform against Vatican II.

A Critical Appraisal of the First Three Years of the Pontificate of Benedict XVI.
The Vatican Council II reassessed.
The end of John Paul II’s long pontificate, under the guidance and inspiration of the new Bishop
of Rome, could have been marked by a return to the process of reformation of the Roman-
Catholic Church
such as to offer a renewed proposal of evangelisation able to relate comfortably
to modernity. This has not come to pass.
After the first three years of the pontificate of Benedict XVI, which we have observed attentively,
we can offer a few impressions, having in our hearts a true love for the Roman Catholic Church
into which we were born and in which we have grown up, and considering the substantial pastoral
problems the church faces at the start of the third millennium.
For Pope Ratzinger relativism is the principal enemy, Europe the contested territory,
„family and life” the battleground
, and the armament used in this conflict is the affirmation of
the „rationally” and „naturally” founded nature of Christian ethics and anthropology.
The dominant position, in other words, is that held by those convinced of the rational plausibility
of the faith of which the Catholic Church, in its hierarchical structure, is the main or only
depositary, obliged by its mission to make definitive pronouncements on anthropology, human
rights, ethics, nature, and even the interpretation of history.
According to Benedict XVI, all societies, all cultures, and almost all religions are required to
conform to the values which, as spiritual leader of the whole world, he proposes. The overall
picture, only lightly disguised, is that of the reintroduction of a societas christiana guided by the
Roman Catholic Church. This basic principle, applied with inevitable mediations and delays,
seems to us to be the inspiration of Benedict XVI’s pontificate. Its consequences are varied,
serious and widespread. The main ones are:
(1) Only the negative aspects of the phenomenon of secularisation are perceived, without
grasping how much it could help to purify a faith still typical of too many believers, which is
habitual and only vaguely connected to real life. The message of the Vatican Council II
contrasts with this:
The Church and Catholics can learn from the world, not only teach it. Their
attitude, therefore, must be one of positive encounter and dialogue, in the light not of a rigid
doctrine, but of a faith which gains experience from life.
The message coming from Rome is often one of fear, of pessimism, of critical verdicts. Religious
instruction characterised by fear cannot effectively offer the great Christian hope in the way that it
is supposed to, especially in moments of uncertainty or difficulty like at the beginning of this
century.
We are a long way from that „new Pentecost” hoped for by Pope John, which inspired the
Vatican Council II
and which still guides the lives of many individuals and communities who
live their moral and social roles as Christians.
(2) A stricter adherence to conservative theological orientation in the teaching of Benedict
XVI has led both to increased doctrinal rigidity and the re-emergence of an hierarchical and
authoritarian structure of and in the Church.
Proofs thereof include:
– the choice, except on rare occasions, of „conservative” bishops at the head of the dioceses and
the central offices of the Roman Curia;
– the reintroduction of the Tridentine Rite (with the hasty and unfortunate correction of the prayer
for the Jews on Good Friday) whose consequences will not fail to create more problems than
those they clumsily attempted to resolve;
– the resumption of „persecutions” of theologists (in primis Jon Sobrino, censored on the eve of
the General Episcopal Conference of Latin America at Aparecida);
– the unfortunate references to Islam in the Regensburg address;
– the papal baptism, broadcast, in the Easter night, of a Muslim well known for his attitude as
crusader against Islam;
– doubts raised about enculturation by the insistence on the direct link between the Christian faith
and Hellenistic culture;
– the absence of every penitential attitude as far as the recognition of the sins committed by the
sons and daughters of the Church is concerned;
– the repetition of the positions contained in Dominus Iesus, in particular with the ill-considered
„Replies to questions regarding certain aspects concerning the doctrine about the Church”;
– the permanent stonewalling against serious and increasingly urgent problems (from that of the
role of the Bishop of Rome to that of the collegiate status of local bishops’ conferences and the
ministries, from that of the role of women in the Church to that of sexual and family ethics, from
that of the poverty of and in the Church to numerous others).
– The strongly interventionist policy in the Italian political situation is part of this overall
orientation.
(3) The appeal to the Second Vatican Council is, generally speaking, entirely ritual and
sometimes tendentious.
In the Address to the Roman Curia dated 22nd December 2005, the
position of Benedict XVI was very clearly expressed. The interpretation of the Council therein,
not as an occasion for profound innovation but merely for reform in what is, in practice, the
ongoing life and teaching of the Church, leads to the implicit rejection of much of the Council’s
contents, and, worse still, of its task of following the path of reform in the „spirit” of the Council
itself.
Since then all the ecclesiastic circles hostile to change have used that speech as a rallying point.
They conceive of a monolithic, self-sufficient Church, and distrust the rich varieties of ways and
feelings through which the relationship between the individual, the community and God manifests
itself in the world.
One of the consequences of this is the weakness of the pastoral approach of Catholic teaching
towards the problems, sins, joys and suffering of men and women today. Instead we find the
doctrinal message, a didactic approach, judgements and warnings.
This is, it seems to us, a
very inadequate response to the eternal and renewed search for meaning running through our
society after the fall of many ideologies: that of the „plain word of the Gospel”. This is the task of
believers and the Church’s teaching.
(4) The implicit desire to rebuild a church of Christianity, and the conflict with Western
secularised and relativist societies take up much of Benedict XVI’s attention, and result in a
Eurocentric Social Teaching
, while the serious and dramatic problems of the North/South
relations in the world, the permanent problems of war and peace, of rearmament (and of nuclear
arms in particular), of the protection of the environment and of the social and economic future of
the planet are considered less relevant.
The preferential option for the poor is of secondary importance, the commitment to pacifism is
downgraded to what is compatible with the Church’s belonging principally to the Western world.
Instead of prophetic texts denouncing situations of mortal sin we often find what appear to be just
ritual phrases.
We know, however, that within a few months a new encyclical dedicated to world problems is
expected: let us hope that this document, in denouncing the serious injustices existing today,
contains those prophetic tones that have hitherto seemed rare and weak to us. In the case of a
progressive encyclical Pope Benedict should begin a new deal in his pontificate.
(5) The obsessive affirmation of the centrality of the Roman Church has led ecumenism up a
blind alley
and caused it to reaffirm that churches associated with Protestant reform are „not
churches in the real sense”. Despite a few polite phrases, Benedict XVI and the Roman Curia
regard the historic Reformed Churches as not really „salvageable”, inasmuch as they, having
embraced modernity, have „sold off” the Gospel; while the doors are being opened (despite the
insurmountable difference of opinion over the pontificate) to the orthodox churches, which, like
Rome, are lined up against modernity.
In conclusion, it seems to us that Pope Ratzinger has set off in the direction of a counterreform,
completely misconceiving Vatican II
, and we fervently hope for a change in the current
orientation of the pontificate, in which we see too many shadows. We have always hoped that the
Bishop of Rome, casting aside the privileges inherited from history, would be able to be a credible
witness of the Gospel, in such a way as to encourage all brother bishops and the whole Roman
Catholic Church in the way of Jesus, that the whole world may believe.

**********************************

Background information
The International Movement We Are Church – a grassroots church reform movement of lay
persons, priests, and persons in religious orders – was started in Austria and Germany in 1995
and then spread out in Europe and all continents. We Are Church is represented in more than
twenty countries and is in touch with other reform movements all over the world. Its goal is to
keep continue the process of reform in the Roman Catholic Church, a process which has been
opened with Vatican II Council (1962-1965) and came to a standstill in recent years. Website:
http://www.we-are-church.org
The International Movement We Are Church supports Voice of the Faithful (VOTF) in calling
all Catholics to transform our Church: http://votf.org/petition

Chair at present:
Raquel Mallavibarrena
Penuelas 17
28005 Madrid
SPAIN
Tel.: +34-649332654
eMail: rmallavi@mat.ucm.es
Internet: www.we-are-church.org

Please contact:
– Anthony Padovano (United States) +1-973-539-8732 tpadovan@optonline.net
– Aisha S. Taylor (United States) +1-202 422-2235 ataylor@WomensOrdination.org
– Raquel Mallavibarrena (Chair) (Spain) +34-649332654 rmallavi@mat.ucm.es
– Christian Weisner (Media) (Germany) +49-172-518 40 82 media@we-are-church.org
– Vittorio Bellavite (Italy) +39-02-70602370 vi.bel@IOL.IT
– Edith Kuropatwa-Fèvre (Belgium) +32-2-56 70 964 ekf.paves@telenet.be
– Ana Vicente (Portugal) +351 91 935 97 96 anvicente@netcabo.pt
– Hubert Tournès (France) +33-240119873 hubertournes@orange.fr

Publicerat i Uncategorized | 4 kommentarer

Bjälken i det katolska ögat

Karmelitpater Wilfrid Stinissen skriver mycket tankeväckande om ekumenik i senaste numret av Katolskt Magasin. Han avvisar ”två avarter” av enhet: Kollektiv konversion till katolska kyrkan samt uppfattningen att tillräcklig enhet redan finns. Det är lätt att instämma.

Sympatiskt är också att Stinissen med utgångspunkt i Andra Vatikankonciliets dokument om ekumeniken understryker att katolikers första ekumeniska plikt är att tänka igenom på vilket sätt den katolska kyrkan måste förnyas för att enheten skall bli möjlig.

Till sist formulerar Wilfrid Stinissen två villkor för enhet. Båda är värda eftertanke och samtal.

 

Villkor 1. Man måste kunna erkänna varandras prästämbete: ”Utan prästämbete ingen eukaristi och utan eukaristi ingen enhet2, skriver han.

Ur ekumenisk synvinkel vore det intressant om Stinissen kunde vidareutveckla detta. Gällande katolsk uppfattning tycks ju vara att de protestantiska kyrkorna inte har något prästämbete. Hur kommer man fram till ett erkännande av något man anser inte finns?

Men Wilfrid Stinissens första villkor är också intressant ur ett djupare allmänkyrkligt perspektiv. ”Utan prästämbete ingen eukaristi”, konstaterar han. Blir då inte nästa steg i tankekedjan: Utan eurkaristi ingen kyrka. Och alltså: Utan prästämbete ingen kyrka.

Den nederländska provinsen av dominikanerorden konstaterade nyligen att med ett sådant resonemang blir prästvigningen det viktigaste sakramentet. Utan vigda präster skulle kyrkan upphöra att existera. Dominikanernas slutsats blir den motsatta. Det är eukaristin som konstituerar kyrkan. Saknas vigda präster, kan församlingen fira mässan i alla fall.

 

Villkor 2. Man måste erkänna biskopen av Rom ”som innehavaren av ett enhetens ämbete som bär ansvar för hela kyrkan.”

Vad innebär det? Det ena ytterlighetssvaret är ett rent andligt ledarskap. Det torde få protestanter ha några problem med. Det andra ytterlighetssvaret är katolska kyrkan som den ser ut idag, där biskopen av Rom (påven) ytterst är enväldig i allt.

Om man i ekumeniken skall identifiera bjälken i det egna katolska ögat så torde det vara just det sätt varpå biskopens av Rom enhetsämbete är utformat. Tyvärr tar inte Stinissen det nödvändiga steget att reflektera över hur vi skall ta bort denna bjälke. Men han kanske återkommer. Medan vi väntar går det att ta upp en diskussion ändå. Alltså:

 

1. Hur kommer man fram till ett erkännande av ett prästämbete man anser inte finns?

2. Hur skall påvens enhetsämbete utformas för att det skall skapa enhet i stället för splittring?

 

Gert Gelotte

Publicerat i Uncategorized | 1 kommentar

Kyrkans struktur

ARCC spot LIGHT

(analysis of current Church issues provided by the publications committee of ARCC, Fr. Jim Dougherty, Anne Southwood & R. Schutzius, eds.)

Contrasting structures
 
Our Church institutional structure can be traced back centuries to the adoption of a  Roman governance system centered on a supreme human authority.  Until then, following the example of St. Paul, it adapted its
structure to different cultures as it spread the Good News.. 

Scholars identify the chief characteristics of a Roman system as monarchical, dogmatic, male dominated, with overtones of infallible divine authority coupled with legalistic administration. Citizens were indoctrinated with loyalty to the state. Discipline, loyalty and obedience were the esteemed virtues.

In contrast, the early Church revolved around local leaders, often women, in house churches. Entire households were included. The sensus fidelium was sought in a consultative system structured for shared responsibility and collaborative governance. The legalism of original Jewish Christians flexed in response to Paul’s stress on Christ’s universal message as gentiles were added to the Church.  Esteemed virtues were love, compassion, and humility.  Prophetic zeal for the Gospel message was the focus of their life.

The rigidity of this Roman System gave us the sinful division of East and West, the Reformation, the contra-reform against Vatican II and the current crisis.  Compare legalism, governance-by-divine right, and absolute obedience with compassion, subsidiarity, and respect for conscience.  Which offers most to the adult, thinking, Catholic Christian community?
 
It will be a long road back, but a clear awareness of the problem is a good start.  As human instruments of God, the change begins within ourselves.  The Roman system will not, can not, change itself. Invest your time, talent, and treasure in the system that you want for the Church.

Thank you for your support of The Association for the Rights of Catholics in the Church (ARCC).  More about ARCC is at  http://arccsites.org    Permission to circulate with source acknowledged is given.  Comments and questions are welcomed at   rschutz1@prodigy.net  or  1-877-700-ARCC.

Publicerat i Uncategorized | 1 kommentar

Kan det sägas bättre?

En kristens

första skyldighet

är att förhålla sig fri

till all vantro,

till blinda förbudsregler

religiös konvenans,

ja verkligen fri

från varje form

av tom lagiskhet.

(Thomas Merton)

Publicerat i Uncategorized | Lämna en kommentar

Debatt och uppdatering

VÄNNER,

 Det pågår en aktiv debatt på vårt Forum. Länken ser ni på denna sida.

Ni som var registrerade medlemmar på gamla Forumet ska veta att ni på intet sätt blivit utmanövrerade när vi skapade det nya Forumet. Vi kom bara inte åt era adresser. Välkomna tillbaka!

Idag är det många som följer debatten på Forumet. Dagligen kommer det in nya läsare i allt större antal. Idag, när detta skrives är 587 samtida besökare största antalet men den sammanlagda summan/ dygn tordes vara tre eller fyrdubbelt. Tyvärr är det få som vågar skriva och detta i en värld där bloggosfären  erbjuder en fantastisk möjlighet till yttrandefrihet. Använd er av pseudonym om ni känner att det känns tryggt och bäst så.

Slutligen, återigen… vi som skriver på Forum och Blogg och i dagspress/tv gör det som privatpersoner. Om undertecknarna av Manifestet och deras vänner bestämmer sig för att uttala sig som Katolsk Vision är detta en framtida sak. Det enda som finns idag är ett manifest och ett forum för fri debatt och med det dess undertecknare, deltagare och intresserade.

Välkomna

Publicerat i Uncategorized | Lämna en kommentar